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In Washington, D.C., there is a saying: “personnel is policy.” In this episode of our Dirty Steel-Toe Boots podcast series, shareholders Phillip Russell (Tampa) and Jim Plunkett (Washington) break down the significance of Labor Secretary Lori Chavez-DeRemer’s departure and the rise of Acting Secretary Keith Sonderling for employers. They examine how Sonderling’s background and his time as deputy secretary have already shaped the DOL’s enforcement and policy direction. The speakers also take a closer look at OSHA head David Keeling and what to expect regarding issues like the heat illness standard.